Friday, June 11, 2010

Expose the Dirty Rivero Campaign

Francisco Rivero cannot win the election based on his qualifications and experience. It appears the Mr Rivero and many of his supporters are well aware of this fact, and have vowed to do whatever it takes to get a vote. Mr Rivero and his supporters have mislead, misinformed, and down right lied to the people of Lake County. It is obvious that Mr Rivero and supporters think the rules do not apply to them, and have hurt many innocent people. Have you or someone you know been a victim of the Dirty Rivero Campaign? Do you know of lies that have been told? Let everyone know!

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  1. Lake County News editorial: When campaigns attack
    Written by Lake County News Editorial Board
    Monday, 17 May 2010
    Part I

    This is Lake County.

    It's a good place, with good people, who have a right to expect to be treated with decency by their neighbors and other community members.

    In election years, that can go out the window, but even in tough races we've seen people able, in the end, to get along and have meaningful discussions, even if they don't agree.

    This year, we're seeing a new kind of campaign, focusing less on issues and more on damaging not just the candidates, but their families, friends, supporters – or even bystanders.

    It's a campaign of collateral damage, it's immoral and it's got to stop.

    Rather than appealing to the better angels of our nature, this campaign has sought to draw out the deepest venom from peoples' hearts, to prey upon their anger and weakness, and use it against any opposition.

    Since last September, a shadowy group of supporters of sheriff candidate Francisco Rivero has been carrying out a deceitful whispering campaign that seeks to damage and destroy anyone who doesn't openly embrace their tactics. They've made destroying the law enforcement community members and others who challenge them a blood sport.

    This group appeared less than a week after Rivero officially announced he was running for sheriff, and within a month of the arrests of two of the major supporters central to his campaign, as you'll see.

    We chose to ignore the garbage being put out about deputies, others in local law enforcement and community members, knowing that it was lies being propagated by malicious people.

    Silence is a powerful language in its own right, but one that often is given to misinterpretation. In our grandfathers' days, silence was a sign of strength and restraint – for some of us that's what it continues to mean. Today, however, it also can be cast as complicity or cowardice.

    In the context of this campaign, silence is no protection; if anything it led some people to believe there were no consequences for taking damaging actions. Sunshine is our chosen alternative.

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  2. Part II

    One figure central to this shadow campaign is Tom Carter, arrested last August by the Drug Enforcement Administration for illegally growing marijuana. Carter is assisted by Brian Rushing, son of District 3 Supervisor Denise Rushing. Both are listed on Rivero's endorsements page. The third member of the core group is Bruce Forsythe. Several other active participants also are endorsers.

    Carter, who owns local properties and businesses, is in major legal trouble; he's facing charges that could put him in federal prison for more than a decade. Additionally, some of his properties are likely to end up in the hands of the US government, which is seeking multimillion dollar forfeiture actions as part of its federal prosecution of Carter and his alleged marijuana activities.

    Forsythe was arrested by the California Highway Patrol last Aug. 3 for driving under the influence and, in early September, just days before kicking off his defamation campaign, Forsythe was formally charged in the DUI case. He pleaded no contest last November and was sentenced to two years probation, a "wet reckless" education program, and fines and court costs.

    Carter and Forsythe have been videotaped in close proximity to Rivero at his campaign events and Forsythe was recently seen discussing documents at an event with Rivero's attorney, Victor Haltom.

    For a period, Forsythe had a work-trade agreement and lived on Denise Rushing's property. Earlier this year, after he and Rushing began to clash over his work, he left her property, which only seemed to have heightened his misdirected rage. She said she also asked her son to leave her property.

    Rushing said she had nothing more to say about Forsythe except that she also was “the recipient of his obnoxious, threatening, demanding emails,” and was a target of his defamation campaign.

    On March 12, the final day of candidates' filings, Forsythe – not content to simply libel and defame people – made anonymous and threatening phone calls to Mark Borghesani, whose family owns and operates Kelseyville Lumber, according to Borghesani's phone records. Borghesani's name appears on incumbent Sheriff Rod Mitchell's endorsement list; Forsythe threatened him with boycott as a result.

    Forsythe forgot to cover his tracks in one important way – Kelseyville Lumber's phones have caller identification, and Forsythe's cell phone number came up. It was the same number for multiple calls in which he tried unsuccessfully to change his voice so he would sound like different people.

    At that point, Supervisor Rob Brown, who had been getting a barrage of threatening and haranguing e-mails from Forsythe, did some research and unmasked Forsythe, Carter and Brian Rushing.

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  3. Part III

    Borghesani hasn't been the only business owner threatened; there are several others, many of them in the south county. In one case, Jim and Hettie Hendrickson of Middletown, who process milk for Clover Stornetta Farms Inc., began receiving harassing phone calls threatening them with boycott if a Mitchell sign which hangs on their fence wasn't taken down.

    The Hendricksons' fence – which belongs to them, not the company – is known as the “running fence,” where people in all kinds of campaigns have hung signs over the years.

    “We've never been threatened in 20 years,” Hettie Hendrickson said. “It's the first time.”

    She offered that a Rivero sign could also be hung on the fence, which it was. But the threatening calls kept coming. Another Rivero supporter and endorser, Renee Burkdoll, reportedly called the company's corporate headquarters to complain and was told that this it was still a free country and the Hendricksons had the right to hang the Mitchell sign on their property. Finally, the Hendricksons had the Rivero sign taken down and returned to him, but they left up their Mitchell sign.

    “The last time I checked, this was America,” Hettie Hendrickson said.

    Denise Rushing has disavowed her son's activities. She said that she believes her son, who now is a student out-of-county, doesn't have the time to be deeply involved in the defamation campaign.

    Lake County News also has been targeted by this group, especially in the wake of comments Rivero made in a March campaign appearance, when he insinuated that we had received internal affairs documents about James Beland, a former sheriff's sergeant, from the sheriff himself.

    We told Rivero that we obtained the documents last year in connection with the Bismarck Dinius case, during which Beland's records were entered into discovery by defense attorney Victor Haltom, who since has begun representing Rivero.

    Nonetheless, Rivero refused to correct his insinuations about the article. His campaign manager said Rivero wouldn't do it because he didn't like being told what to do. When someone who wants to be a public servant can't own mistakes or has an attitude that suggests he doesn't believe he does anything wrong, there is a serious, deep-rooted problem.

    Rivero's insinuations about our coverage have been a clear attempt to chill any coverage of his campaign in a way that was not overtly flattering.

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  4. Part IV

    Since that time, harassment and personal attacks have escalated. We were threatened by Forsythe and told to take down all campaign advertising off of our Web site and eliminate revenue critical to our operations.

    Many of Rivero's supporters are angry about him being the object of an internal affairs investigation for sexual assault. When an allegation is made, such investigations have to be done and they should be done as quickly as possible.

    However, the allegations over the handling of Rivero's internal affairs investigation don't excuse the behavior of this shadow faction. At the very least, a part of Rivero's campaign has been taken over by an angry and destructive group of people who, in many ways, mirror his own rhetoric. At the worst, he's behind the scenes, urging them on, but acting surprised and disappointed when anyone challenges him on his role.

    After weeks of getting nowhere with the Rivero campaign in late March and early April, we focused on setting up two televised sheriff candidates debates, which took place April 28 and May 5 and are on our site.

    Hours before the May 5 sheriff's debate the situation reached critical mass. That's when Lake County News Editor and Publisher Elizabeth Larson received a credible threat of physical violence conveyed to us by a person who had knowledge of this shadow group. She was told that physical harm awaited her if she showed up to host the debate.

    The matter was reported to the sheriff's office and safety precautions were stepped up. However, the attacks haven't stopped – from the time of the physical threat on, repeated unsuccessful attempts have been made to hack the Lake County News Web site.

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  5. Part V


    Remaining silent has only caused an escalation and we regret that. The people responsible for this shadow campaign believe there are no consequences for their actions, which clearly are being taken for the benefit of one individual. Ultimately, we decided it was better to tell the truth than sit silently while good people are harmed.

    A case in point: During the May 5 debate, Rivero pointed out off-duty deputies in the room and said, “I do have the courage to stand up. I'm standing here in front of you, in front of many of the deputy sheriffs that are out here in this audience, amongst many deputy sheriffs who I know have committed some pretty atrocious acts during the time of their, uh, of them being a deputy sheriff.”

    Deputies and their wives walked out in disgust. It was a mean-spirited moment – the kind that has become typical in this campaign – as well as being a broad, opportunistic and sweepingly malicious statement that insinuated those men in particular were the wrongdoers.

    Rivero signed a clean campaign pledge espousing transparency, a discussion of the issues without fear of recrimination, and which prohibits defamation, whispering campaigns, slander, attacks on a person's personal life and family, and coerced help for an election.

    It also states: “I SHALL IMMEDIATELY AND PUBLICLY REPUDIATE support deriving from any individual or group which resorts, on behalf of my candidacy or in opposition to that of my opponent, to the methods and tactics which I condemn. I shall accept responsibility to take firm action against any subordinate who violates any provision of this code or the laws governing elections.”

    Rivero has denied any connection to this shadow group that is clearly working for his benefit. He's also been unwilling to publicly repudiate them and their tactics, or apologize when he breaks the pledge himself. Whether or not he's directly linked, he must “immediately and publicly repudiate” such tactics, as the pledge states. He also owes those deputies a public apology.

    Candidate Rivero has a moral, legal and ethical obligation to publicly disavow Tom Carter, Bruce Forsythe, Brian Rushing and all others among that shadow group acting on his behalf – whether directly or indirectly – who are participating in this campaign of defamation and intimidation. Signing that pledge was his first official campaign promise and one he appears set on breaking.

    This past Friday, during a series of e-mail exchanges with Lake County News, Rivero was asked if he was going to denounce this group.

    His answer?

    Silence.

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  6. This is the first time I have seen that piece from Lake County News, and it is extremely eye opening. I voted for Rivero, and am now ashamed to admit it. He is a real smooth talker that pulled the wool over my eyes. I don't know if I will vote for Mitchell in November, but I do know that I will no longer be voting for Rivero. Thank you for sharing this story. I will spread the word about this website.

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  7. During the debates, Mr. Rivero commented that “respect and leadership are earned – it’s just that simple – Respect and leadership are earned first by example." He then turned right around and proved that this is something he cannot do. He showed poor leadership by disrespecting Sheriff's Department staff. On many occasions he has said that the Sheriff's Department is "good ol' boys run amuck". Leaving the impression that the entire department is corrupt, and leaving many undeserving good men and women at the Sheriff's Department to suffer the repercussions from his statement. After Mr. Rivero has time and time again disrespected every person in the department, I do not see how he can expect any of them to respect him. I do not work for the Sheriff's Department, but I do not have any respect for Mr Rivero.

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  8. At the Middletown debate Frank Rivero said he knows many deputy sheriff’s who have committed some pretty atrocious acts. Frank Rivero also claims he wants transparency. What I would like to know is why he does not start that transparency now and reveal to the citizens who has committed these atrocious acts and what acts were committed?Is this just another lie?

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  9. Rivero won't give names because it is all just make believe.

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  10. The Mitchell clan kicked Rivero's butt at Middletown Days. I was sitting in front of the substation and the crowd went wild when the LCSO entries went by. Only a couple half hearted claps for Frank.

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  11. "827 MartinGifford 44 lowerlake 995-is this the one and same Back hoe?
    Why don't you call Rully in on that complaint line and stop being a pest here? Really get tired of you Gifford.
    # posted by Anonymous Anonymous : June 21, 2010 5:40 AM "

    Oh well...

    And No back hoe, sorry.

    I get tired of you guys and the random conniving attacks on the LCSD. Anonymous accusations carry no weigh at all. Who are you? Your nothing to me. Some person who is too afraid to give their real name. Your tired of me? Stand in the ring and play the game, otherwise your just some side liner whooping it up with the crowd. A follower..

    I have some respect for Kip, because he mans up and doesn't hide. I even can play fair with Wendell, even though that is an alias. I did a personality assessment on Wendell and he believes what he is doing is right. Hes not a follower. I disagree with his position, but I surely don't hate that person.

    Kip supports Frank Rivero. I can respect that. The rest of you are just on the sideline afraid to step up.

    So lead, follow or get the F out of the way!!!!

    This is a forum of opinions. If you can't deal with that AND your not giving your name? well..That's pretty sad. Ya need to stay outa my face bro.

    SM
    # posted by Anonymous MartinGifford(It's like that) : June 21, 2010 4:04 PM

    You guys act like Rivero is the answer to it all. If you're a retard or a jackass he will still have to arrest you.
    Almost all of you post anonymous comments. It means nothing. Stand up and be counted or be a coward and hide in the shadows. You act like your getting a "get out of jail free card" with the man if he gets elected.
    If he doesn't arrest people he will be watched. If he starts targeting or profiling, he will be watched. If he messes up he will be watched. Basically if he gets elected; he will be watched. Basically lets just count on there being a sheriffriverowatch.blogspot.com.

    Don't get me wrong, if Frank gets elected he has my support. I will also never launch verbal attacks on his wonderful family. I will never slander or harass the man. There may be questions posed, but nothing like you guys. If anyone attacks him in that way, they will be deleted from the site. It's all about respect. It would be allot more professional because people who are highly trained such as Federal and state law enforcement, intelligence, private security contractors and military will all be on the watch site. Any retards will get yanked, however
    Franks office will be under operational scrutiny; A reasonable, measured scrutiny compared to other agencies and not some made up arbitrary standard like what goes on here. Mitchell and his deputies have treated my family and I with respect, fairness and professionalism. This deserves my loyalty.

    So feel free to go back to your ranting and threats.

    Oh and yes; I miss Brady too. Brady rocks!!! I didn't know that happened. I'm bummed out.

    SM
    # posted by Anonymous MartinGifford : June 19, 2010 9:41 PM

    Oh, the operational word is "If". It hasn't happened yet. You guys are way too cocky.
    I'm a Mitchell supporter, but you gillholes on this site make me feel bad for poor Frank.

    Good luck.

    SM

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  14. I just got this link off the Dirty Forsythe blog. It is about time someone created a place for people to post the truth about Rivero! Lord knows that every time the truth is posted on that other blog, it gets deleted right away!

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  15. Well, someone is finally spreading the word. Thank you.

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  16. Hey way to go! Good to see somebody fighting fire with fire.
    From what I've seen and heard of Rivero he's bad juju. That business of attacking all the deputies was a real mistake. And prior to that his supporters were out there threatening businesses over their support for the Sheriff.
    Shocking stuff from a guy that wants to be the Sheriff.
    Thanks for putting the site up. I'll share the URL.

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  17. Can you call the Sheriff and ask him about Rivero discharging his weapon at an unarmed person?

    Kinda indicative of his behavior towards the citizens.

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  18. WHAT? Your deleting my posts over here too? SM

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  19. I'm sorry SM. My friend said he thought it was the same post 3 times, and maybe a glitch. He will see if he can get them back up there!

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  20. SM, Please accept my apology. I should have read your posts better. I thought it was a glitch and posted the same text 3 times. This blogging thing is all new to me, and I could not figure out how to get them back. This blog was my girlfriends idea. She doesn't know anything about computers, so begged me to set up the blog. I don't know much and told her I would screw it up. Just didn't realize it would be this soon. Again, sorry about that.

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  21. Post 5:54. I do not know the Sheriff personally, but will be happy to give him a call and ask. I hear the Sheriff is a nice guy and welcomes questions and feedback from the public. I have a feeling that if what you are saying did happen, it is probably under investigation and he will not be at liberty to discuss it. It never hurts to ask though. I want to thank you for asking the question in your post, rather than put it out there as fact. We don't want to get into the bad habits of that other blog. ;) I will place a call tomorrow and see what I can find out.

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  22. What does Rivero plan to do if, by some chance, he did get elected? The retards at the manifesto blog say Rivero will get rid of all the bad Deputies. He has already said they are all bad, so is he going to fire them all? I guess since Rivero can pick and choose which laws to obey, he can disregard their rights and just fire them. He is quick to push the transparency issue but on this item his transparency is pretty opaque.

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  23. I thought it was pretty comical that all of the little blogsters were jumping all over LCN for their "biased" coverage yet if you read their stuff, it is not only biased in one direction, any other point of view is deleted. And they still count all of those as 'hits' along with their double and triple posts. Listen to them whine now.

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  24. Seems like the lovelace people don't appreciate the taste of their own medicine.

    Sheriff Mitchell has requested that his supporters don't resort to the same tactics of his opponent. That doesn't mean you can't refute misinformation that it put out by others, or engage in spirited debate, just please refrain from spreading rumors, false facts and resorting to name calling. There is nothing gained from these tactics, and it only drags us down to the level of those that do.

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  25. Is Renee Burkdoll also known as Renee Hill? If so, does anyone have any information about her former employment at the LCSO? Folks, she's one of the active bloggers on the crap site. It's time to start fighting fire with fire and dig out all the dirt we can on these people. Let's give 'em a taste of their own medicine.

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  26. Part I:

    Diehl-Darms: Researching the sheriff's candidates
    Written by Linda Diehl-Darms
    Wednesday, 12 May 2010
    My name is Linda Diehl-Darms and I am a longtime resident of Middletown. I attended the sheriff candidates’ debate at the Calpine Visitors Center on Wednesday, May 5, sponsored by Lake County News, Lake County Chamber of Commerce and the Calpine Visitors Center. I am very glad that I did. It is important to me to experience firsthand, and if that is not possible, then do my best to research before drawing conclusions of what I believe to be true on any given topic.

    When there is a race for an elected position, I want to hear what each candidate has to bring to the table as far as qualifications and experience, I observe how they conduct themselves while answering questions, and if they evade or directly answer the questions being asked.

    The following is a brief synopsis of the points that stuck out in my mind, please do not take my word for what I observed. This debate was videotaped and may be viewed at www.velocityvideoonline.com or at Lake County News, http://lakeconews.com/content/view/13719/939/. .

    Mr. Baxter seems like a very nice man. He seemed forthright with his answers. He has a great background in education and work experience in law enforcement. I am a bit concerned regarding his ability to oversee such a large budget and it was not clear as to his personnel managerial skills. He made many references to his experience in San Jose with the police department. I believe every community has its own personality and I am not sure that applying San Jose philosophies to Lake County would work.

    Mr. Rivero is charismatic. He has always been charming, respectful and courteous toward me whenever I have been out and about. He has been a businessman and owned and operated a Mortuary in San Francisco for 20+ years. He stated that it was very successful and required following stringent guidelines. He used this experience as the qualifications for having the experience to run the sheriff’s department. It is my understanding that the sheriff’s department is an umbrella and under that umbrella are distinct departments. So, in essence, several businesses are being run at one time.

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  27. Part II

    There are many regulations that govern public funds that do not apply to private enterprises. I have concerns regarding his knowledge of the sheriff department’s funds when he makes statements concerning public school cutbacks being somehow related to the sheriff’s department spending. My understanding is that the school district funds and the sheriff department funds are unrelated.

    Mr. Rivero made the remark that “respect and leadership are earned – it’s just that simple – Respect and leadership are earned first by example.” I completely agree. There is a woman in the sheriff’s department who has 30+ years with the department and is a captain in the corrections department. When Mr. Rivero was listing the number of personnel in leadership positions he stated, “three to four captains depending on how Rod (Mr. Mitchell – he views Crystal as a captain in his department) cares to view Crystal Esberg. She is in fact a correctional officer who is serving as captain in administration.”

    I would think that achieving the position of captain is an honor regardless of which department within the sheriff’s department. Not counting Captain Esberg as a captain in the Lake County Sheriff’s Department, in my opinion, shows a lack of respect for her achievement.

    In his closing remarks, Mr. Rivero pointed out that he has the courage to speak out to the people in the audience and in front of many of the deputy sheriffs in the audience “amongst many deputy sheriff’s who I know have committed some pretty atrocious acts during the time of their, uh, being a deputy sheriff.”

    Several men got up and left the room. Some people in the audience whistled and clapped. I was in a state of disbelief. Why would someone who is looking to supervise these men publicly humiliate them? I could be wrong, but this does not seem to be the best avenue to earn respect.

    There were three currently employed deputies in the audience; there also were several employees of the sheriff’s department present. After the debate, I introduced myself to the deputies who had left the room. I told them that I was sorry that a candidate would publicly humiliate them and I thanked them for their service to our community.

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  28. Part III:

    The next day I decided that I needed to know if there was any truth to the allegation that any of them had performed atrocious acts. I phoned the sheriff’s department and asked if my number could be given to these men so I could talk to them about it.

    All three called me back. One of them stated that a couple of years ago there was a verbal allegation made against him and that there was never a formal written allegation. It is the policy of the sheriff’s department that even if there is a verbal allegation, it needs to be investigated. There was an investigation and the facts revealed cleared the deputy of any wrongdoing. The other two have had no allegations made against them. I was even offered by one of them to go through his personnel file.

    None of these men as of May 6 had allegations made against them for atrocious acts. So now the question becomes, if Mr. Rivero is aware of atrocious acts performed by one or all of these deputies – why has he not reported them? Even if he believes nothing would be done about them, it is still a policy of the sheriff’s department that any misconduct of an officer is mandated to be reported. If Mr. Rivero is not willing to submit a report regarding atrocious acts when he knows that is a requirement of his job in the sheriff’s department, then how can I be sure that he would follow the laws that govern the Lake County Sheriff’s position?

    Mr. Mitchell has the support of the deputy sheriffs and correctional officers association. That speaks volumes to me. He must be trusted and respected by the majority as their leader.

    During the debate, Mr. Rivero made mention of witnessing despicable acts performed by some deputies within the department. Mr. Mitchell asked Mr. Rivero if he has not already done so, to please report them for investigation.

    I spoke with former Lake County deputies and one of them is a 15-year veteran of the Lake County Sheriff’s Department. While these former deputies do not agree with Mr. Mitchell’s personnel managerial style, they know him to be straightforward and law abiding, and that he operates from a place of integrity.

    As sheriff, Mr. Mitchell is responsible for the sheriff’s department and anything that does not go right is ultimately his responsibility, whether or not he was personally involved, because he is the head of his department.

    Of the three candidates running, Mr. Mitchell is the most qualified. Is he perfect? No. Is he willing to listen and discuss issues with the public? Yes. If you have questions or concerns for Mr. Mitchell, call him. If your question or concern is one that the law allows him to discuss, he will.

    From what I have observed and the research that I have done in speaking personally with members and former members of Sheriff Mitchell’s department (including many not mentioned in this letter) I do believe that he performs his duties as sheriff to the best of his ability and has earned the utmost respect from the majority of those employed by the Lake County Sheriff’s Department.

    Linda Diehl-Darms lives in Middletown.

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  29. Didn't Francisco steal a dog from the Twin Pines Res?

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  30. Actually, the lovelace folks and their lake county manifesto subscribe to an ideal that every American should find distressing....It is called Domestic Terrorism. And is defined as: Step One- Convince people that basic services are ineffective or corrupt. Such as law Enforcement or Medical Personnel. Hello folks..News Flash...There are actual armed people out there doing there best to protect you and yours. They will never rest and they are called Police Officers and Fire Fighters. Oops..They are human so sometimes there are bad ones that get fired........(and then complain on terrorist blogs). The honorable ones just serve in silence...rest assured.

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  31. Oliver Wendell Douglas and Brucie from the Manifest remind me more of Fred Ziffel and his pig, Arnold. Or maybe Mr. Haney and Sam Drucker. Bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha!! Back woods and narrow-minded.

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  32. Didn't Tom Carter get arrested by the DEA? Didn't Bruce Forsythe get convicted of DUI? Didn't Larry Fabisch get arrested for hauling around a truckload of stolen weed and a gun? What do all of these criminals have in common? They all support Francis Rivero. Kinda makes you wonder why they want HIM to be the top copper.

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  33. The good thing about this blog is it will keep lovelost/fishwrap busy. Now they have to post on both sites. Maybe I should start a third site and keep them up all day! They will have to switch from potheads to cranksters.

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  34. It looks like the whiners don't like it pointed out that Rivero has Lynn Thornton's blood on his hands... They claim all the Deputies knew about and participated in the 'Perdock coverup' and since Rivero is and was a Deputy he must be as responsible as all the rest of the Deputies. The difference between the other Deputies and Rivero is that Rivero is using Thornton's death for political mileage. What a douche!

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  35. Rivero leads people to believe that he thinks Dinius should not have been charged with anything in the boat crash. The FACT is that Rivero DOES THINK Dinius was GUILTY of BUI. Just ask him.

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  36. Way to go DSA!!! You must have out done yourself in Middletown. You got RuBruce Foreskin filing yet another complaint that will be thrown in the trash without further consideration. Keep up the GREAT work! Can't wait to see you all in Clearlake. :)

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  37. post 1101, I beg to differ with you, Francisco did not steal that dog from the res, he bought her 2 bud lights first. That is not stealing, that isa a down payment!

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  38. post 448, I don't think Rivero would make a statement. He will make charges and hold a press conference with his friends but he would never actually answer a question from a voter that is not wearing the right colored t-shirt.

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  39. I just got back from the looser site and they deleted a half page of comments. Seems some were asking questions of Rivero and some were making fun of Brucie. Nothing like "moderation mode" to quell disention

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  40. Their complaints about the parade have as much validity as Rhonda Rully's. This much is clear, they are running scared.

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  41. 534, he responded to my email and couldn't see the color of my t-shirt. it was camo. ha ha.

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  42. you are very observant 9:35

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  43. To post 5:54 on Monday. I wanted to let you know that I have not placed a phone call to Sheriff Mitchell yet. The GF and I are "debating" on how involved I (we) should be. It was her idea to start this blog, so people could post the true facts that get deleted on the other blog. She is fearful that if I (we) get too involved their may be retaliation. I can't really blame her after seeing what Rivero and supporters are capable of. We are still "discussing" and will keep you posted.

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  44. No doubt about retaliation, they will retaliate if they find out who you are or where you live. Francisco will be right behind them too. He's already made it clear that if he's elected, he has a few vendetta's to settle. Apparently he's not as familiar with the POBR as he thinks he is.

    He has absolutely no budget experience and this at a time when California's financial health is at it's worst in our lifetime. Why would any voter want to put what can only be generously called the minor league player in when the experienced varsity is already out there and has been maintaining fiscal responsibility for the past 15 years.

    Endorsed by DSA, LCCOA, LCPOA, numerous law enforcement officers inside and outside the county, The NRA, the California Gun Owners and a multitude of local citizens and business owners. Ask them why the support Rod Mitchell for re-election.

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  45. 740 No Guts No Glory Go for it. I would listen to GF she got you this far. Does she pick out your clothes too?

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  46. Here's the deal. Spreading lies and rumors isn't "payback" it's simply lowering the person to the level of those who support Mitchell's opponent. Take the high road, don't participate in those "dirty" campaign tactics. We can and will win this thing the right way.

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  47. 748 Where were ALL those endorsements on election day? It doesn't make sense, With all the support you claim Mitchell has it should have been a landslide. What do you think happened?

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  48. There were three candidates to split the vote...Now there's only two. Rivero didn't get a majority for a reason. In my opinion most of Baxter's votes were people who wanted change, but not the change for worse that Rivero was offering. They didn't go for him then and they won't go for him now.

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  49. The simple answer is because Mitchell is the best qualified out of the two, and when it comes down to it, educated voters are going to realize that.

    Now to use your logic, both Mitchell's votes and Baxter's were against your candidate, isn't that right? That assumption is as faulty as your's of course. Now run on back to the blog that protects you by deleting the comments that illustrate how uninformed you really are.

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  50. Because the idiots from the rumor blog come over and post the same thing over and over. You know, just a little clean up over here every once in a while is a good thing. Disinfecting too.

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  51. Honesty from a lovelace groupie or member? The irony is delicious. LOL, Clean your own backyard first, then worry about someone else's

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  52. Happy to take your advice,I'm always eager to learn. I think I will make this my backyard, Thanks for the advice.

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  53. By all means, welcome home then. We appreciate spirited debate on the real issues no the rumors.

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  54. I am so glad that, whomever started this blog, did. I had thought about it but never got up the nerve. I believe that it is common for people to believe everything they read on the computer. So with that other blog posting lies, and deleting the truth, the confused citizens of Lake County had nowhere else to turn. I think it's great to keep things positive and not sink to their level. I have been called many things on the other blog when trying to post my opinion and have been told to "stop whining and stop name calling", neither of which I have done. I did have a little spirited debate with the "rivero4sheriff" blogger, but then he disappeared. I think because his name was mentioned. Thank you, Grandma in Kelseyville

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  55. bottom line he wasn't thinking he was reacting. And this is what has gotten him in the pickle he is in today with the voters. Like they said on the other blog. His actions created everyones reactions and this is where it has landed us. Fighting to keep him in office. The question is: Is it truly worth the pain and agony this is putting many through. You, your friends and your families?

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  56. When will the final votes be counted? We should all be at the courthouse to support Rod.

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  57. There was no cover-up at all, the entire report is on-line for anyone to review. The Dept or Justice review of the case is on-line as well. There was nothing to cover-up.

    But since you're new to the backyard, I'll humor you a bit. Please provide thefacts that support your assertion of a cover-up, then we can debate what those facts mean?

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  58. Feel free to head to the courthouse if you want. Not thinking that's a big deal.

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  59. 1040 I thought I was in conversation with 1014? Are you one and the same?

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  60. post 853, I was a Baxter supporter, in fact everyone I know was a Baxter supporter. Baxter may not have had the best campaign but he was giving us an alternative. Now that the race is between Mitchell and Rivero, all I can say is I am being forced to vote for Mitchell because Rivero and his blog scare the hell out of me. He does not have a clue and he says the things to his blogsters that they want to hear and that scares me. At least with Mitchell you know what you are getting. Nobody can say that about Rivero.

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  61. I don't care who you vote for, At this point I can't say who I will vote for in Nov. It doesn't really matter yours and my vote won't change anything any way. I was in hopes that someone on this blog might have a open mind. It is hard to converse with some one that is forced to think a certain way. A lot could happen that might sway me one way or another. Sorry to hear your stuck in your mindset.

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  62. To answer 1014's question, YES! It is! Beyond any shadow of a doubt. The alternative is terrible. The men and women who serve under Sheriff Mitchell have endorsed him because he is the best candidate and they are in the best position to know.

    On the other blog, you'll hear how many of the deputies are corrupt, but even they can't explain away why Mitchell got 44 endorsement votes and his opponent got 0. They are either faced with arguing that ALL the deputies are corrupt or that even the good ones support Sheriff Mitchell. No one believes that all, or even a significant percentage, of the deputies are corrupt, so they are left with only one truth....The good deputies support Mitchell. Of course when you point this FACT out, they simply delete your comment rather than face it.

    Baxter was a better alternative to Mitchell's opponent, but Baxter is no longer in the race. I've met him and spoken with him at length. He seems like a very nice person. He certainly has a lot of experience and you don't get that far in a law enforcement career unless you've got some moxy. I give him his props, had he waged a more comprehensive campaign he would have been hard to beat. Even if he doesn't feel he can endorse Sheriff Mitchell, I would call on him to support the rank and file's choice for Sheriff and that is Mitchell.

    I've also met and spoken with Rivero and he does not seem like a nice person. He has charisma, and has people working very hard to elect him, so in those respects his candidacy should be taken seriously, but he lacks any credible experience. 3 years as a deputy sheriff, a decade long break in service and 6 years at SFPD do NOT qualify a person to be Sheriff. At best we'd be looking at a incompetent sheriff. Oh sure he could embalm the living heck out of the coroner's cases, but that doesn't mean he knows how to investigate a coroner's case, or act as the Coroner. He can arrange a funeral, but can he arrange a forensic pathalogical examination? Or oversee a homicide investigation?

    I look at it this way. Consider Sheriff Mitchell's endorsements...Business and community leaders, prominent citizens and virtually all law enforcement. His opponent's supporters don't measure up. Their tactics are intimidation, Clover Dairy, Kelseyville Lumber and various other businesses, lies about the deputies who serve this community, and harrasment of anyone who doesn't cowtow to their particular set of beliefs. That is not how America works.

    Considering that we are entering into the worst economical period in my life, I want a fiscally responsible person at the controls of the budget. Yes the BOS controls the money, but the Office of the Sheriff could very easily force them into a situation where they have to cover costs greater than anticipated. Sheriff Mitchell has never gone over budget in 15 years, that means something to me. Yeah, we don't have a cop on every corner (and we don't need one), but it seems to me he does more with less, and his opponent is trying to use that against him. It's backfiring.

    Every politician seeking to unseat an incumbent makes promises that can't possibly be kept. It's an age old tactic because it works. Everyone also thinks they can do it better, and that seldom works too. President Obama came to office filled with high hopes and the promise of change. How has that worked out for us?

    Mitchell has a proven track record of getting the job done. Even the problems in the department are being dealt with according to the law. It certainly would be politically expediant to pick and choose which rules, policies and laws Sheriff Mitchell wants to follow, but instead, he does the right thing even when it causes him political damage. I want that in my public servants.

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  63. 11:22, your vote does count and very well may change the outcome. At first, I have to admit, I didn't take FR seriously. On the face of it, his candidacy is farcical. The primary has shown me and many others that we have work to do and we WILL do it.

    Consider this. Even if we get a huge 50% voter turnout. That means your vote essentially equals as many as four votes, considering the people who didn't vote or aren't registered.

    Please don't ever give up your right to vote without a fight. My best advice is to educate yourself on the issues and the candidates and make the best choice. Even if you don't vote the way I want you to, an educated voter, usually makes the right choice.

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  64. I agree with you Thomas. Well said. And don't forget, if you do not like either candidate you can vote for a write-in. I have done that in the past. Sure, the write-in never wins, but I still had my "say" and felt good about it.

    One of my children told me that Michael Jackson actually got 1-2 percent of the votes for some office during an election. That is pretty darn good for a write-in candidate.

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  65. Thomas Pain, sir. I just read your 12:08 post. That is the kind of rock solid information the citizens want and deserve to hear. I hope you will save your post and submit it to the local news papers as November grows near. Not a chance we would ever see something so honest and well written over on that other blog, even if it was in support of Rivero.

    Hat's off to you!

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  66. The post regarding the shooting has been deleted. If it can be verified, you can repost. I am sorry, but we do not want to this to be filled with false accusations like the other blog. We want this to be a place where people can go to get the truth and some honest discussion. Rivero and his supporters are truly atrocious enough on their own. We don't have to resort to spreading false information, so we are going to try and err on the side of caution. I am not saying that what you posted did not happen. Just can't be verified at this time. Sorry.

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  67. 544, we don't want to act like the Rivero supporters, do we? We're better than that. :)

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  68. If you have to ask it is too late. :(

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  69. Other than a couple posts by strays from the "other" blog, the dialogue here has been great. I was a bit afraid that it may not go so well. The GF was right once again. She said that the Mitchell supporters would not be trash talkers. Kudos to all of you, and thank you for your contributions.

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  70. June 23, 2010 8:14 PM

    Damn! Anger issues..

    SM
    # posted by Anonymous MartinGifford(It's like that) : June 23, 2010 8:27 PM

    Wow, Goth Girl...love helping out Rivero don't you
    # posted by Anonymous Anonymous : June 23, 2010 8:28 PM

    I love this high road you guys have taken. I think I'm gonna start printing this out and posting it around town as an example of how Rivero supporters conduct themselves.
    # posted by Anonymous Anonymous : June 23, 2010 8:34 PM

    June 23, 2010 9:29 AM

    But your an anonymous post so this doesn't mean anything at all.

    Moreover,
    It is hearsay, a rumor, he said she said. Get it? A big problem up here in Lake County I have noticed over the years. It is not fact.

    I have met McClain and respect him. He has made allot of improvements to CPD during the time he has been there. There is a defined chain of command and officers seem motivated. A far cry from before.

    I think your little lovalace group is a small collective of control freaks. The Chief of police is not an elected position and should never be. Sheriff IMHO should not be elected. It should be appointed.However the world does not run on should now does it?

    Now get in your Toyota Prius and go back to Marin.

    Your little lovalace group so reminds me of that movie Serenity where the "interplanetary parliament" wants to control everything and everyone.

    SM
    # posted by Anonymous MartinGifford : June 23, 2010 8:42 PM

    I love this high road you guys have taken. I think I'm gonna start printing this out and posting it around town as an example of how Rivero supporters conduct themselves.
    # posted by Anonymous Anonymous : June 23, 2010 8:34 PM

    Now your talkin! Word will get around before the next election. I'll help ya.

    Mitchell is playing fair, but you Rivero supporters are not. Thats extremely conniving and unfair. People will find out, hopefully sooner than later.
    # posted by Anonymous MartinGifford : June 23, 2010 8:47 PM

    I think SM is a made up person. SM = Sheriff Mitchell. No doubt jj and his ego rolled into one.

    Thank you to all the Lovelacers for a great job done. Change is coming and you all deserve Kudos for hanging in there and at times taking the heat. You guys/gals are the best!!
    # posted by Anonymous Anonymous : June 21, 2010 11:05 PM

    Nope, sorry.

    Not a made up person. Vary, vary real indeed. I am not Mitchell, sorry.

    Oh, and yes I am signing my posts as SM, because this is on me. As I explained to Kip; I cannot involve the Marines on this one.

    SM

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  71. The fact is that Rivero did shoot at a man in Cobb. Luckily he missed. There was an extensive manhunt for the person and I believe he was eventually located. Rivero was cleared in the shooting, which means it was within policy, not necessarily in good judgement. You're more than welcome to delete this post if you'd like, but I think somewhere on his campaign site he posted the notice he had been cleared, but never the circumstance surrounding why he felt he was justified in shooting at someone. Perhaps that's a good debate question for later in the season. We'll see if his answers match the ones he gave to investigators.

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  72. Dear Sheriff Mitchell ~ ~ I'm wondering why all your supporters (I'm one of them) keep slamming people for their opinions on the this blog and accusing them of being Rivero supporters. Can't you ask them to grow up? They're making you look like a fool. It's just plain rude and insulting. Personally, I'm tired of seeing people (including me) belittled for everything posted that doesn't suit your supporters. I won't be back. : ( I'm sure the folks who run this blog won't care and I'll get several nasty responses and accusations regarding what or who I am, or this one will just be deleted. Damn, this makes me sad because I really pulled for you in my own way. Sigh

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  73. 1136: Your comments are indicative of the kind we usually see from the other blog. Greatly exaggerated and deliberately hate filled. Here's hoping that you find peace. In the meantime please remember that your attacks are more a reflection of your lack of a meaningful counter argument to Sheriff Mitchell's obvious superiority as a candidate than they are effective.

    1:05: You'd have more credibility if you hadn't posted the exact same post on another site as a supporter of Sheriff Mitchell's opponent. If you have a point to make, make it without the shenanigans. If it has validity it will withstand scrutiny.

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  74. June 24th 1:05am. Sorry Rivero supporter, you can't disguise yourself as a Mitchell supporter. What gave it away? the time of the post was the first clue. Then you say "why all your supporters (I'm one of them) keep slamming people for their opinions on the this blog". If you are one of those "all" you are talking about, then you can answer that question yourself.

    Next, please give the date and time of the post on this blog where people are "slamming" you for your opinion. Can you do that? I think NOT!

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  75. 1:05, you could probably get away with that on the other blog where they are dumb as rocks. Why would fellow Mitchell supporter belittle you for posting in support of Mitchell. DUH. Maybe if you have someone read you post back to you, you can recognize just how ignorant it is. That's a big MAYBE.

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  76. If you decide you do not like either candidate, come November, you do not have to vote for one of them just because they are the only names on the ballot. You can choose not to vote for anyone, or you can write-in your candidate.

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  77. Post 4:17pm, Please, no need for name calling. I am sure everyone here can see right through that post, just like you and Mr Paine did.

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  78. 451 Pray tell, Just what did you see when you were looking right through that post? Since I posted it I will let you know if you saw what you seen.

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  79. Has to be someone from the whining blog, they can't spell!

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  80. 800 - I saw a Rivero supporter trying to pretend they are a Mitchell supporter. Like the other post pointed out, yours post does not make any sense. If you were really "pulled" for Mitchell and were a supporter, your posts would reflect that and there would be no reason for a fellow Mitchell supporter the "slam" you. Even if they had reason to do so, I'm not so sure they would. They have been very courteous from what I read.

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  81. Everyone please come out to the Clearlake 4th of July parade and support the Deputy Sheriff's Association. These fine men and women put themselves in harms way everyday to serve and protect us. No matter who you will be voting for in November, the DSA deserves our support!

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  82. Considering that word about this blog didn't get out until the 21st, it has blown away the other blogs first 4 days. They had about 18 posts in the fist 4 days, this one has about 74. That isn't even counting the post that have been deleted. Mitchell supporters may have been asleep at the wheel before the primary, but looks like they are in it to win it now!

    There is something I find just a teensy bit funny. If the people from the other blog would have been smart enough to listen to advice and get behind the right candidate, Baxter would have won and there would be no run off in November. They would have succeeded in their quest to get rid of Mitchell. Should have had a clear head when choosing who to support, or listened to the advice of others with clear heads. Too late now.

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  83. Asleep at the wheel? is that the same as being responsible for their ignorance? Fact is Rivero beat Mitchell.

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  84. 9:56, No, not really. Since none of us know everything, we all suffer from some form of ignorance. Ignorance is really just a lack of knowledge on a particular topic. I'm not particularly knowledgable on the rules of soccer, so therefore it can properly be said that I'm ignorant on that topic compared to say a soccer referee.

    As for your fact about the primary election results, it's not actually true and it's also immaterial, since in reality there was no winner. In order to win a primary election, one must garner 50% of the vote plus one additional vote. Your statement indicates ignorance of how the primary system works. The good thing about ignorance is that it is completely curable. Education fixes ignorance and now you have a little bit more education on how the election system works in our country. Please feel free to pass that on as you see fit.

    You can also click on my name and get a definition of "ignorance" for your own edification.

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  85. 919That post was posted by your buddy S and M on the real blog. I copied it word for word and substituted Mitchell's name for Riveros. I'm glad S and M is on your side as he fits nicely in your box of rocks...... 800 - I saw a Rivero supporter trying to pretend they are a Mitchell supporter. Like the other post pointed out, yours post does not make any sense. If you were really "pulled" for Mitchell and were a supporter, your posts would reflect that and there would be no reason for a fellow Mitchell supporter the "slam" you. Even if they had reason to do so, I'm not so sure they would. They have been very courteous from what I read.

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  86. 4:47, Yes you can choose not to vote, but then again, what purpose does that serve? One candidate, Sheriff Mitchell, is clearly better prepared for the office and one of them is going to be elected. It might be better, if your decision is still up in the air, to meet the candidates, scrutinize their message and make an educated decision on who you think will do a better job.

    For many of us, that choice is clear. Sheriff Rod Mitchell without a doubt better prepared and better qualified to take this Department through the economic situation ahead. Don't take my word for it. One way to educate yourself is to check their endorsements, find someone you know and trust and speak with that person. There are a mulitude of other ways to get information on the candidates, but be aware, first hand knowledge is always better than hearsay.

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  87. 11:20, The "real" blog is no place to get any credible information, nor is an anonymous poster, without some verification. Only a fool would take unverified information in such a manner and declare it fact. I suspect there are many people posting as "Agent provocateurs", trying to make Sheriff Mitchell's supporters look bad, by posting comments in poor taste. In my opinion they have tried every other trick in the book, and this is just one more. Trickery might get you into the game, but it isn't going to win it.

    Here's a perfect description of political provocateurs.

    "A political organization or government may use agents provocateurs against political opponents. The provocateurs try to incite the opponent to counter-productive or ineffective acts to foster public disdain—or provide a pretext for aggression against the opponent."

    Seems to fit my theory very nicely.

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  88. I have some questions for Sheriff Mitchell's opponent.

    The claim is a lack of transparency,

    Why then doesn't Mr. Rivero release the investigation into his shooting?

    Why doesn't he speak to the other internal affairs investigations he is involved in? His attorney at the time, Victor Haltom, made mention of a second IA in a news article posted by the LCN. Something about providing information to a witness before that witness was interviewed. How come Mr. Rivero is only focused on releasing information from one part of an investigation?

    Additionally, Mr Rivero is continuing to count the days "On the politically motivated IA" when he has in fact been cleared, in writting, of the allegations made by the complainant. Some of his supporters posted portions of the memorandum he received notifying him of this on the other blog. A memorandum they could have only received from the candidate himself. Why does he continue to report what is clearly erroneous information?

    How can he claim no connection to the blog when they are posting information that could have only come from him?

    As a candidate running on a platform of transparency, why did he remove the forum from his webpage? Without ever answering a single question.

    All of these unanswered questions lead to believe it's not truly about real transparency, but about politcally expedient transparency, limited transparency and select transparency. Your opinion may vary, but there are sufficent examples of his lack of transparency available to anyone who looks.

    I have many more questions that will likely remain unanswered and may post more as time allows. Anyone interested in posing these questions directly to the candidate, please feel free to use them the next time you meet him.

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  89. 1135 Sooooo Tomas Paine is your real name? And VoteNoRivero is their real name? everyone else is Anonymous. Whats up with that?..........Thomas Paine said...

    11:20, The "real" blog is no place to get any credible information, nor is an anonymous poster, without some verification. Only a fool would take unverified information in such a manner and declare it fact. I suspect there are many people posting as "Agent provocateurs", .......... So who is posting here that should anyone believe?

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  90. I can't speak to all of your questions for Rivero because I post Anonymous. Therefor you would not accept anything I had to say. ALL the answers to ALL your questions are below. Call him he is not afraid to talk with you............................................... Francisco Rivero can be contacted
    via email at Info@SheriffRivero.com

    Or by phone at 987-4467

    Or by U.S. mail at:
    Elect Sheriff Rivero
    P.O. Box 214
    Middletown, CA 95461

    Or Visit Deputy Sheriff Francisco Rivero on
    FaceBook by clicking here.

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  91. 11:51, I too use a pen name, and you are right to consider that when you consider anything I claim as factual without verification. So let's try an experiment.....

    Do you deny that your candidate is running on a platform of "transparency"?

    Do you deny that your candidate was given a memorandum clearing him of the sexual misconduct claim against him?

    Do you deny that your candidate is still counting the days he has been subjected to the above IA investigation on his campaign website?

    Do you deny that your candidate's attorney made the remarks about a second IA that I reference above?

    Do you deny that your candidate has claimed no connection to bloggers on the other site? Brian Rushing, Bruce Forsythe and Tom Carter?

    Do you deny that they or someone on their site posted portions of a memorandum they claimed cleared Rivero of wrong doing in the sexual misconduct allegation made against him?

    Do you deny that Tom Carter was indicted for felony charges related to marijuana cultivation/sales and tax evasion?

    Do you deny that the other blog has engaged in personal attacks on Sheriff Mitchell's supporters along with their families and has engaged in a pattern of harassement against business that support him?

    Come on! Let's hear your rebuttal to my claims instead of fingerpointing, "gotcha" posts. What fact have I posted that is incorrect? And what facts do you offer to contradict mine?

    Please, I beg of you to do more than insinuate I'm wrong, prove it or at least give it the old college try.

    The opinions that I post are mine, we can argue all day about them, but absent some compelling argument, at least something more substantial than "ah hah, you're anonymous too", I'm unlikely to be swayed.

    to 1205:

    I contacted him, personally, as you can read in my June 23, 1208am post. He will answer all your questions...with non-answers and things he thinks you want to hear. I've interacted with him as much as I care to, and unfortunately for your comment, I believe he is afraid to speak with me. I don't know if you're a different poster than the one just before you, but I offer you the same opportunity to answer my questions above. Will you?

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  92. If you want to turn this into a Elect Rivero site that's ok with me. I don't have the answers off the top of my head as I'm not as consumed as you appear to be. I will do some research and get some answers to your questions. When I relate to Rivero that you said he is afraid to speak with you. How will I be able to convince you that Rivero is not afraid to speak with you? Set up a meeting? Have him call you? I will do what I can to make it happen. Let me know how you want to do it. K? This time if you don't understand the answers ask to have him to explain what you need. If you came away from the conversation with "non answers" and only things that he thought you "wanted to believe" Who's fault is that? Just because you were not satisfied with the answers doesn't mean the answers were untrue or incomplete. I will get started on those questions, Let me know what you want to do about the meeting. Oh by the way I didn't "ah hah, you're anonymous too", I was agreeing with you that "Anyone" that posts anonymous should be taken with a grain of salt. Some more than others.

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  93. I've already met with him more than I care to, so save yourself the effort. My opinion of his inability to meet the needs of the Department and the staff that serve our community is well established. However, I'm more than interested to debate what his responses to my questions might be. Feel free to post them when you get them.

    As for turning this into a pro Rivero site, I encourage you to give it your best shot. As long as we keep it relevant to the issues of the campaign, in the immortal words of Doc Holliday, I'm your huckleberry.

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  94. I have sent Frank Rivero two emails, asking him about his position on several issues I have. I have never recieved an answer from Rivero. If Rivero is so accesable why does he not return emails. Especially before the primary from a registered voter?

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  95. Before the primary, I sent an email to Mr Rivero asking for answers to a few questions. I did get a reply from him, but it did not contain answers to any of my questions. He told me that he would answer my questions if I called him on the phone. I did not call him. If he was not willing to put his answers in writing, I don't trust them to be truthful.

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  96. 10:46 and 12:30- I too have had questions go unanswered from this particular candidate. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to post the questions here so we can all see what kind of questions Mr. Rivero has been avoiding.

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  97. Unanswered.....
    Mr Rivero,
    This is from the California Code of Fair Campaign Practices.

    "I SHALL IMMEDIATELY AND PUBLICLY REPUDIATE support deriving from any individual or group which resorts, on behalf of my candidacy or in opposition to that of my opponent, to the methods and tactics which I condemn."

    Will you be doing this regarding the Lovelace group, Bruce Forsythe, Brian Rushing and the Sheriff Mitchell Watch blog? Your press conference on Monday would be a perfect time to make this anouncement.

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  98. Rivero did answer when I asked his opinion on the Dinius case. This was his answer.

    "Since he was rammed from the rear quarter panel, there was nothing he could have done to prevent the accident. I do however believe he was guilty of boating while under the influence"

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  99. We have added a new page to the blog. Up toward the top of the page you will now see tabbed navigation with "Gold Star Posts". This is our posting Hall of Fame. Post that are so good we do not want them to get lost over time!

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  100. People from the "other" blog must be worried about us getting the facts out to people. They keep trying to drag their bad "back-biting" habits over here. Sorry guys. We're holding on to our good moral standards and class. When we are in the mood for some low budget fantasy, we'll stop by your place.

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  101. In the spirit of "transparancy", I asked Mr Rivero to disclose the names of the deputies that he has accused of committing the atrocious. He did not do so.

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  102. Hello Mr. Rivero,

    I hear a lot of talk about what is happening in the Lake County Sheriff's Office. I have also read the sheriffmitchell/lovelace blog for a bit. What concerns me is after the election what happens? On the blog, even though they say you have nothing to do with it, the lovelace people are stating that you are going to force out all of the 'corrupt' deputies. Do they, in fact, have knowledge of your plans? In some of the TV broadcasts and other statements, you have accused the Deputies of being racists and committing atrocious acts while on duty.

    The DSA at their endorsement meeting voted overwhelmingly to support Mitchell. You held a press conference before the start of that endorsement meeting. You were obviously at Kelseyville High, yet it appears that you did not bother to go into that meeting and vote to endorse yourself. lovelace says you have current Deputies supporting you. If so how come they did not endorse you at that meeting?

    My question for you, is what happens after the election. You stated you could not work for the LCSO if you did not get elected, so that part has been answered. If you are elected, how do you plan to fix the problems in the S.O.? You and your supporters have stated you have no confidence in the command staff and you have accused the Deputies of profiling and being racists, as well as committing violations of law. If you were to be elected, do you plan to remove the current command staff? Who would you fill those positions with? How are you going to cleanse the department of the bad Deputies? Do you put them all on Admin leave and then start the Skelly process to terminate them? What criteria are you going to use to decide which Deputies you will keep and which will be terminated? Do you intend to hire Kip Ringen if you are elected? What about Beland, Morshed, or Lande?

    And if your statements are being misinterpreted in the media and by your supporters, how do you reconcile that with the Deputies? There appears to be a lot of bad blood and mistrust in this election. How do you plan to address that? And if you have been misinterpreted and you come to an understanding with the Deputies, how do you plan on reconciling that with your supporters that are expecting you to go in and clean house?

    I look forward to your response.

    Sincerely,

    Ed West

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  103. Ed, Am I correct in assuming you did not get your questions answered by Mr Rivero?

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  104. Look at facts and than look into your heart. Listen throughout the county and fellow workers. A day does not go by that someone talks about the Dinius case. Mitchell walking right up to and hugs Perdock in the middle of the investigation. Mitchell doesn't call for Napa SO to take over (yet several live nearby). Mitchell ordered Perdock not to access the report but he did and twice. Perdock talked Mitchell into allowing his mechanic into the barn where his boat is being stored as evidence. Of course Hopkins also screws that up too. This incident is known nation wide.
    After that we have Garzoli. He flips a car at 100mph just to go him and doesn't get fired but another deputy just off the FTO program totals a car at Hwy20 and the Cuttoff and he got fired. Garzoli's sexist remarks and bully tactics are known throughout the office and jail. LCSO spends thousands of dollars to give him computer training but just after working on the Computer Task Force he quits. Then he writes into a DEA grant that they must pay for his pilot training. Mitchell even signs the DEA grant first telling the BOS he was not aware of this, then later saying, "not to that extent." Also left out was the incidents involving Morshed's little past mishaps. I remember when a Deputy Chief at the jail got canned for doing less! We also have Bealand's termination. To end it all, how about the IA against Rivero. I have no problem with LCSO conducting an investigation, but waiting four months (just two months before the election) to conduct an IA is very questionable. Rully went public so all of the so called rules of keeping an IA quit just went out the window. It has been 120 days and still no charges against Rivero. Lets hope this does not happen to you.

    a current SO

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  105. Let's REALLY look at the facts.

    But first I must state for the record that I sincerely doubt the poster at 9:30 is affiliated with the Sheriff's Deparment in any way. I base this opinion on several glaring issues. The least of which is a consistent misspelling of Beland's name usually found on the "other" blog.

    Additionally there is a profound factual error, Garzoli's crash occured almost 20 years ago, and not "AFTER" the boat crash. Apparently you're confusing an old accident with the helicopter crash. No one affilitated with the Sheriff's Office would make that error. Additionally, at the time of both incidents, Garzoli was NOT a probationary employee as the other deputy "Just off the FTO program" almost certainly was. Being released on probation is not tantamount to being fired, in fact, legally, it's quite different. There is much more, but I have some questions I'd like to ask first.

    How did you come to have this knowledge about these disciplinary actions?

    My belief is that you've simply pulled this off of the rumor blog. I say this because you have consistent inaccuracies found in the rumors posted at the "other" blog.

    How long have you been "A current SO"?

    Again I suspect the truthful answer is: 0
    No one I know refers to themselves as an "SO". They are deputies, CO's or whatever, but not "SO."

    Which sexist remarks or bullying tactics were you personally a witness to?

    What Chief Deputy got "canned" from the jail, and what behavior that led up to the discipline? Also what did that Chief Deputy's personnel file look like? Did he have prior discipline? You conveniently leave all this out, likely because you don't have any real FACTS.

    You have no problem with Mrs Rully's complaint being investigated, but question the timing? Had Rivero not gone public, no one would have known anything. Mrs. Rully had apparently made several posts over at the "other" blog, but had not named names, or even if she had, wasn't being taken seriously for obvious reasons.

    Of course her going public does not mean the "rules go out the window." Unless of course your on a political witch hunt. Maybe you can show me in the law or in the Department's policy and procedure where public disclosure by a complainant allows the rules to be completely ignored?

    120 days of what with no charges against Rivero? Mr. Rivero has been informed that the sexual abuse complaint is unsubstantiated. Why do you and he keep insisting otherwise?

    So the real FACT is that you're going to have to do a lot better than regurgitating a few ill-thoughout talking point over here. That type of intellectual laziness may fly with like minded individuals at the "other" blog, but over here, you're too easily "pwned".

    P.S. You can click on my name to get the meaning of "pwned" if you'd like.

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  106. By the way, Rivero has stated numerous times that once he becomes Sheriff, all the deputies start out with a clean slate. If the ones that need to mend their ways do so, and don't screw up, they will be ok.

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  107. To Thomas Paine - You sir are no Thomas Paine. I knew Thomas Paine. He was a radical, a revolutionary, someone with Common Sense. He was a Founding Father. You sir, are no Thomas Paine!

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  108. 10:32, I've never heard him make that statment and I've watched numerous videos of his public appearances and seen all of the televised debates. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction as to where I could confirm your statement? Now, I did hear Jack Baxter make that statement but not your candidate. In fact I've heard quite the opposite. That he will clean house, as if it needs cleaning.

    10:40, Aside from the fact that I doubt you actually knew him, (He died in 1809, which would make you quite old if that statement were true), he was "a radical" and "a revolutionary" who supported our form of government over the British Monarchy. As such, he would NOT be considered a radical or a revolutionary by today's standards.

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  109. 03-14-2006, 04:03 PM 03-14-2006, 04:03 PM
    Garzoli_187
    Novice Real Name: Dave Garzoli
    Join Date: Jan 2005
    Location: Lakeport, CA xxxxxx Seems like Dave has been looking to move for a long timexxxxx
    Posts: 358
    Mid Career Employer change-Should I do it?
    ________________________________

    OK here is the situation..BTW...if your a cop hater hit your back button, this thread is not for you.

    I have been a Deputy Sheriff for over 16 years at the same department (Lake County California www.lakesheriff.com check out the recent arrests and most wanted-Its pretty cool)

    Any whoooo....... I was just promoted to Lieutenant a couple weeks ago,
    the second highest rank in the department not including the elected
    sheriff.

    A month ago I had applied for a job( two actually for a Lt. position
    and Sergeant), out of curiosity mainly, with the Citrus Heights Police
    department. Well I got offered a job as a Sergeant providing I pass the
    background investigation, which should not be a problem. Citrus Heights
    is a Brand New Police department and officially takes over law
    enforcement service (from the sheriff's office) in the city on July 1.
    The city has TONS of money and the pay and benefits are HUGE compared
    to here. As a top step Lt. where I am at now I will make $61K a year,
    and there is no overtime as it is a salaried position. As a top step
    Sgt. at Citrus Heights I will make a base pay of just over $80K with
    the ability to work overtime. The City pays 100% for family medical
    coverage (Currently I pay $703 a month for family medical) Citrus
    heights pays 100% of your retirement contribution (Currently I will am
    paying about $140) also, Citrus Heights has a $1500 relocation bonus
    and you bring your seniority with you-becuase it is brand new.

    Here is my issue: I am a big fish in a small pond. A small rural
    backwards ass pond with crummy pay and benefits (as compared to the
    rest of the law enforcement world)

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  110. 10:55: Garzoli was a "chosen one" by what standard? Did he not have to compete for his promotions like everyone else?

    Even if your comment is true, it just shows that Sheriff Mitchell will objectivly discipline his subordinates, "chosen ones" or not.

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  111. 11:03, Garzoli's own words contradict your assertions. I quote "Mid Career Employer Change - Should I do it?" Sounds to me like he was trying to work out whether it was a viable option or not and hadn't yet made a decision. And apparently the benefits here are pretty crummy.

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  112. 11:06, That's an interesting assertion, based on what might I ask? Although there is an interesting parallel, both publish written works.

    Click on my name for a hint.

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  113. I think it's safe to say this blog is getting more action than the "other" one tonight. How will Bruce, Tom and Brian sleep knowing that.

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  114. I thank you for the compliment sir. I too speak the plain truth and common sense. Which was exactly the comparison I was trying to draw. Thank you for your kind words.

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  115. The real Thomas Paine would not have supported Sheriff Mitchell. You sir, are no Thomas Paine!!

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  116. A true friend of Thomas Paine's would have been able to support the debate with facts and well reasoned argumentation, rather than unsubstantiated and unsupported statements that have no bearing on the topic at hand. I do support Sheriff Mitchell. You sir, are no friend of mine.

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  117. The claim also alleges that Mitchell discussed an internal affairs investigation related to Garzoli with a local newspaper reporter, in this case Katy Sweeny of the Lake County Record-Bee, who wrote a story published Jan. 7 discussing Garzoli's helicopter flying activities.


    Garzoli's claim said he has been deprived of his constitutional rights, which in turn has created “a hostile working environment, embarrassment and humiliation that he has had to endure and will continue to endure when he attempts to find other employment.”

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  118. I spoke with Rivero by phone regarding his campaign signs being placed in a location with the primary intent to annoy me, my side of a good neighbor fence. I asked him to intervene and defuse the situation. He responded by saying he was not on active duty, he is a citizen running a campaign and it was not his job. Now, for clarification, I didn’t ask they he intervene on another candidates signs but HIS own signs. He failed to accept responsibility and failed to show common courtesy during our conversation.
    A family member who supports Rivero asked if I would meet with Rivero to clear the air. She knew she didn’t have a chance on converting me but just wanted Rivero & I to meet and discuss our differences. Guess what? Rivero declined.

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  119. The Mitchell people did some butt whippin' last night and this morning. Way to go.

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  120. Going way back to post 7:53, Frank Rivero did not respond in any way to that particular email, so I sent a follow up email. I asked him why he did not respond to my earlier email. Frank Rivero did not respond to the second email, either.

    In the interest of transparency, I did email Jack Baxter about issues I had regarding the campaign. Mr. Baxter replied almost immediatly and sent me additional information regarding his campaign as it progressed. I did not email the Sheriff, because I know him and I had no questions regarding the campaign that I wanted him to address.

    I understand that campaigning is a hectic time and the candidates are being pulled in many directions. But Jack Baxter found the time and expended the energy to answer my questions and continued to supply me with information. On the other hand, Rivero chose not to respond in any fashion. Not even a sorry I'm too busy but I will get back to you, or,I'm having someone from the campaign contact you. For me, it was precurser of things to come if Rivero is elected Sheriff. Slogans are slogans and actions speak for themselves.

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  121. In regards to the above post where Rivero said that he was not on active duty...he should do the decent thing and quit. Sure he is not on paid leave of any kind, but he is still tying up a slot that could be filled by another body. Since Rivero has no intention of coming back as a deputy what is the point?
    Grandma in Kelseyville

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  122. The Lovelace Group can start their own blog about Dave if they wish to discuss him.

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  123. Does anyone know who to contact regarding the campaign signs that should have been taken down 10 days after the election, but weren't?

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  124. Anonymous said...

    I'm sorry SM. My friend said he thought it was the same post 3 times, and maybe a glitch. He will see if he can get them back up there!
    June 21, 2010 8:19 PM


    I have never posted to this site before.

    Let me say this once, so listen good;

    SM=StaMarine=Marty/MartinGifford.

    I don't want to involve the Corps, so I stopped using SM. Also, SM is NOT Mitchell.

    I'm using Redcell on that hate site.

    So who is posting in the name of SM?

    I've been on the mitchellwatch site making posts and calling those people on their Democratic party B/S and lies about Mitchell.

    So who is using SM? Apparently someone is a poser?

    Redcell

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  125. This was all done under Mitchell's watch.................I've been
    riding co-pilot with a good friend who is a 16000+ hr CFI for 13 years
    and along the way he has taught me to fly. What I am lacking is FORMAL
    intensive emergency procedures and ground school only because until now
    I have not really been serious about getting a rating. We fly around
    looking for weed and having all kinds of fun doing it. I have an annual
    budget of nearly $100K to rent a helo to spot weed

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  126. The LCSD and Sheriff Mitchell has my email and phone from Middletown Days. Plus I have been an RP on several calls. If there are ever any questions please contact me directly. Not sure who was using SM, interesting.

    Redcell

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  127. June 21, 2010 5:02 PM

    Oh, someone pasted some of my finest work in from that lovelace hater site.

    Ok, that was me!! Hehe...

    Redcell

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  128. I think you can't get a credible piece of news or information there.

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  129. Good work
    written by sphere, June 26, 2010
    Thanks, DA, Forest Service, and Sheriff's Office! I don't get too excited about marijuana as a rule, but these guys growing up in the parks really get my goat. JJ posting on your own site doesn't count. There are other ways to get your numbers up.

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  130. Anonymous said...

    I'm not using my old moniker anymore, because it is on me.

    Redcell

    Or perhaps Splintercell, who knows. From now on you can be Sphincter cell
    June 26, 2010 7:49 PM


    Well, this site is not about our running gun battle. Let's keep the trash on the trash site. = ), now go back to Berkeley in your Prius.

    Sorry guys!!

    Redc

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  131. Not going to that other site to see what lies they are spewing anymore since it now forwards you to their newspaper, and I use that term loosely. Not sure how web sites work, but don't advertisers use how many hits your site gets to determine if they want to advertise with you?

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  132. Well, well. One of Rivero's avid supporters was just arrested for domestic violence...Renee Burkdoll.

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  133. 10:29, The arrest is actually for the violation of a domestic violence restraining order. Since there is no additional domestic violence charge, it's unlikely there was additional violence involved in this particular arrest. As a side note, California law requires a peace officer make an arrest any time there is a violation of such an order.

    In an interesting coincidence (If you believe in that sort of thing) a post appeared at the pseudo newspaper, started by the other blog. The poster claimed to be by Rene Burkdoll's husband and suggested some type of improper relationship between her and Kip Ringen. Given the ferocity of their attacks on Sheriff Mitchell, I wonder if there's a connection to that and her arrest.

    I've included the post from the other site below.
    _________________________________________________

    Reply to: Sheriff Mitchell Watch 8 hours 46 min ago
    Re: Sheriff Mitchell Watch
    I have listen to the tape of Rod Mitchel's wife apologizing for her husband's infidelity. I have read blog after blog mercilessly attacking Sheriff Mitchel for this sin. These blogs say if he cant be trusted with his wedding vows how can he be trusted in public office.

    yet two of the most vocal critics of Sheriff Mitchel and closest supporters of Frank Rivero are just as guilty. If they represent Mr. Rivero's values and ethics how is he any better than Mitchel.? Wouldn't we just be trading one flawed human with 16 years experience running the sheriff's department for another flawed human with no experience?

    Attached is a clip of Renee Burkdoll ( my wife ) talking to Kip Rigen. Why do those living in glass houses throw the biggest rocks?

    I hope it gets as much attention as Mrs. Mitchel's tape did.


    http://www.zshare.net/audio/77423462acd337e5/]617.wav
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    I would caution reading too much into it.

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  134. I listened to the tape but couldn't understand most of it. Can someone help me out? What did I do wrong?

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  135. I met the husband of the red head and he seemed like a nice man with a level head. Seems like some of Rivero's followers have some of his traits.

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  136. Sounds like Kip left town right after the husband busted them.

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  137. Aww Renee...just a little 5'4 125 lb. domestic violence goddess...right? Poor Mark, deserves better.

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  138. Now that's a shiner! Way to go Renee.

    http://lakesheriff.com/bookingdetail.asp?booknum=38657

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  139. 10:18 Are you posting from the slammer or did you make bail?

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  140. Post 12:55, why do you care how many comments this site has? Does the number of posts mean anything? Perhaps the dialogue is more important than the number, you know, the old quality vs. quantity thing....

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  141. 12:55 Go bail her out and stay off this site if you can't cope with it's existense.

    I'm shocked that so may Rivero followers admit their double standard wedding vow thing. They claim if it's one of them then it's okay.

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  142. 12:55 don't be so shocked, that has been Rivero's platform from the beginning. He works for the S.O. talking to Deputies, Deputies talking to him. Socializing with fellow Deputies. Yet, during the Dinius trial, Rivero goes on tv with former Deputies to 'reveal' that LCSO racially profiles Hispanics and actually teaches that in the FTO program. It isn't until after the Dinius trial that Rivero hitches his wagon to the 'conspiracy theory' and there is a coverup that has occured.If Rivero knew of this conspiracy and did not 'reveal' it to the press when he was talking to the press about profiling, would that not be a double standard?

    Rivero talks about honesty and transparency in the Sheriff's Office, yet when a complaint is filed against him, he immediatly holds another press conference, only this time he has a lawyer with him and he acknowledges violating a direct order from a superior. His reasoning is that it was a political ploy by the current Sheriff. And, once again, he complains that the Sheriff is disclosing this information to hurt him. My understanding is that the Sheriff never discussed the IA investigation. Rivero was quick to point out one was initiated and he was quick to point out he was cleared, but in spite of that Rivero thinks it is acceptable to ignore a direct order. Where does that leave him, were he to be elected? If a Deputy chooses to ignore a lawful order of a superior for what ever reason, how can Rivero expect to discipline that officer? He has stated he is all for transparency. Will he release confidential information in the name of transparency, and violate the employee's civil rights? He has accused the current Deputies of a number of things, yet he says they will have a clean slate if he is elected. Where is the honesty and transparency in that? He claims that the Deputies have committed atrocious acts but he is willing to give them a clean slate if he were elected?

    The bottom line is Rivero and his supporters will say and do anything to smear the current Sheriff and use any means to get elected.

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  143. Anonymous said...

    12:55 Go bail her out and stay off this site if you can't cope with it's existense.

    I'm shocked that so may Rivero followers admit their double standard wedding vow thing. They claim if it's one of them then it's okay.
    June 27, 2010 1:44 PM



    That's why so many people post over at the trash site. There all followers. No one can think for themselves. So many meaningless posts based on hate mongering and hearsay.

    Mitchell has been doing a fine job and has my support. The LCSD Deputies have a great relationship with the public. Great common sense between letter of the law vs the spirit of the law. Great response times too, especially for a rural type county agency.

    Everyone should talk to at least two people and get them to commit to checking the Mitchell box. Just folks you know. The Berkeley radical types who protest everything down to Jello can't be sold. Who cares! Just talk casually to friends, associates etc. I'm getting a small group in November when I go down to Middletown. Were gonna vote and then have some drinks at the golf course greenroom.

    I tell folks to think for themselves, instead of all the trash talk. This place, (Lake Co) is so much better then back in the day. Mitchell can take most of the credit too.

    Redcell

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  144. This is listed on Rivero's website as one of his priorities.
    "Improve morale and recognize outstanding job performance by members of the Lake County Sheriff’s Department."
    Could this be the reason he threw EVERYONE in the department under the bus? After what Frank has put LCSO staff through, I'm guessing that the only way the moral could get any lower is if Frank happens to get elected Sheriff!!! Frank set that one up pretty good. It will be so low it has no where to go but up.

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  145. I have a question for Rivero. One of his priorities is to "decentralize operations to assure improved response times for all Lake County residents".
    I would like to know exactly what he means by this? LCSO already has decentralized operations with deputies covering all areas of the county, and its three substations. Will he be adding additional substations? Additional staff? I doubt he is going to get any additional funding. So, how does he plan on making what is already in place better at no extra cost to the County?

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  146. Sheriff Mitchell already has a plan underway to relocate and improve the sub-station in Middletown. The funding is in place and the construction is set to start soon. His opponent has done nothing to further that goal and is in fact piggybacking off of Sheriff Mitchell's hard work and accomplishments. But if he's elected, you can bet he will claim he is responsible.

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  147. As with post 6:40, Rivero has said he plans to stop the deputies being able to take home the cars. I don't understand how that is going to save money. The way I understand it, once they are in their cars they are technically on patrol. What difference does it make if they start from their house or from the office? Also wouldn't that make response time longer for the detectives for a call out? The only benefit I could see is if they had a staff mtg before every shift to go over everything, with someone telling them to be careful out there, which seems only necessary in larger metropolitan areas. I watch too many cop shows. Grandma in K

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  148. Hey, 9:26 Grandma, recently an on-duty deputy crashed his patrol vehicle into a parked car in Hidden Valley, starting his shift from home, and was arrested for driving under the influence. If he had been required to drive his own car to work, then, if he had made it to work without crashing, someone might have noticed he was not fit for work and reduced the county's liability for the accident or something worse. Or, if he had crashed his own car, at least it would have been his own car, not a county car. Or, maybe he would have thought twice about going out on a shift like that if he knew he had to pass muster at headquarters. Don't you think?

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  149. REAL FACTS:

    Crystal Esberg, Janel Rivera and Marybeth Strong are all members of Sheriff Mitchell's senior management team. None of them are white males.

    Mitchell should have responded to the crash. His actions are appropriate. Only 1 Napa deputy lived in Hidden Valley at the time, and he's not a boat deputy, and it just doesn't work that way. Sorry.

    Beland was fired because he told two separate and opposing stories about the PAS issue. One was innacurate. I don't know which one, because I wasn't there and I suspect neither were you. Either way, his erroneous recall either deliberate or accidental is grounds for dismissal either because of misconduct or incompetence. That, and he was mistaken about driving Perdock around for hours after the blood draw was taken. I'm leaning towards incompetent.

    You don't know what Sheriff Mitchell did oor didn't review. Sheriff Mitchell has already taken responsibility for not knowing the extent of Garzoli's flight training. Wouldn't matter either way, you'd still criticize him. I'm fairly sure if you ran a department of 100+ employees you wouldn't know every detail about every person's actions either. Again, Sheriff Mitchell's actions were appropriate.

    Sheriff Mitchell fired Perdock. Whether it was justified or not, your argument hurts your position that he doesn't supervise or gives friends preferential treatment.

    The EEOC complaints were filed by Rivero, Ringen and Morshed. These are hadly disinterested parties in this election. Their motives are suspect. Since Rivero filed the complaint he certainly is privy to any results or findings. Why don't you ask him why he doesn't release them. Last time I hear him respond to that question, he too said he couldn't discuss it because it was still under investigation. Maybe you know more than anyone else about the status of that investigation. Why don't you tell us the results?

    The Sheriff cannot control when a citizen makes a complaint. Nor does he have the authority or duty to inform the general public regarding the results of any internal investgation. Several Rivero supporters have posted excerpts from a document they claim Rivero received clearing him in that aspect of the investigation. Why does Rivero continue to count the days on his website if he already knows the complaint was unsubstantiated? He's being dishonest? Call him on it, or do you only care about one person's chracter in this election?

    It seems two of Rivero's biggest supporters and campaign advisors are also involved in an innappropriate relationship. What is Rivero going to do about it? Nothing. Humans are fallible and make mistakes. It's how you handle the aftermath that determines your character.

    Head on back to your trash talking blog. Your arguments don't withstand even the most cursory review.

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  150. 9:34, either way, he, the deputy in question, should be responsible for his actions and the rest of the deputies shouldn't be punished for his misconduct. Additionally, take home cars save money on wear and tear. Make deputies more accountable for damage done to their cars since they are the only ones who drive them, and increases safety and law enforcement presence in the neighborhoods where they are parked.

    No, I think it's a good program and one person's poor judgement shouldn't be cause to end it. Besides, Rivero said he was going to do away it before this incident. He's basically promising to punish the deputies if he's elected, probably as payback for not supporting him. I see that he was fine with the take home car policy while it benefitted him. I didn't see him turning in his car when he had one.

    This is just one more example of his poorly thought out plan, and another example of something he wants to do that has been tried and failed.

    That's also one more reason why Sheriff Mitchell is a better qualified candidate.

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  151. Well then let's just say your ignorant, and you don't have a clue what you are talking about. There that should do it, and if you are a Mitchell supporter, then we need to purge you from the party, as you haven't the intelligence nor understanding to serve much purpose.

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  152. “What does censorship reveal? It reveals fear.”

    That's why you delete so many posts? You're afraid!

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  153. Rivero claims that there are all white males working for the LCSO. He must have never made it to the jail or dispatch. There are many women and minorities working at the jail and dispatch.

    There are a lot of good people who work at the jail and dispatch. They are two places most people do not think about unless it impacts their lives.

    The men and women who work in these positions work hard to ensure that the public is safe. Then you have people out there who make claims that the people who work in the jail are all fools. They are not. They have to deal with people on a daily basis that can't deal with society. They have fights, medical emergencies, and sucidal inmates. Most people call 911 and wait for the very deputies they say are no good. They must be good enough to save your life or protect your property if your calling 911.

    Sheriff Mitchell has done a good job getting good people to fill these positions. You cannot predict how people will perform in the future. All businesses hire people whom they feel will be good employees. Time and performance is the only way to know. You can't blame the Sheriff for a few officers/deputies for their shortfalls.

    Mitchell has done an excellent job securing new dispatch and jail facilities to serve the public.

    Don't pull the plug on progress for negative change.

    Vote for Mitchell!

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  154. There may come a time when a better candidate steps up but the current opponent doesn't fit the bill.

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  155. Ummm, post 10:53, didn't you mean "bye bye Mitchell" instead of the lovelost spelling. Remember.. over here we do know how to spell and we expect the same from you. Just as when we post on the love/hate blog we do not care about spelling or grammar.

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  156. oh and let us not forget that "lets say" translated to "let us say" which would be spelled 'let's'. Sometimes it is good to follow that old adage..... 'it is better to keep one's mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot, than open it and remove all doubt'.

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  157. 358 Just checking to see if in fact that John Boy is the managing editor of this site, Thanks

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  158. As long as you use rivero for TP

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  159. MartinGifford(It's like that)June 28, 2010 at 6:15 PM

    a current SO
    June 25, 2010 9:30 PM

    Nice try. Your not a current Deputy.

    I recognize that same old rhetoric.

    Redcell Marty

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  160. Don't pull the plug on progress for negative change.

    Vote for Mitchell!
    June 27, 2010 11:15 PM

    Nicely said!

    Mitchell put Rivero into patrol, but look how loyal he turned out to be. Kind of a waste of taxpayer money actually. I'm a taxpayer. Why was Rivero not more loyal? Mitchell gave him an opportunity.

    Why did Rivero sue his former employer? Was it the City of San Francisco? Why?

    What did Rivero do after he left SFPD?

    So a new Deputy or Police Officer needs to go through backgrounds. Does a new Sheriff??

    Redcell

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  161. I would like to ask Frank the following:
    Do you believe there was enough evidence gathered during the boat crash investigation for the DA to file any charges against Mr Perdock? If your answer is yes, what do you think he should have been charged with? If you feel there was enough evidence to charge Mr Perdock, doesn't that imply that the investigation was done properly? And that the DA, not the Sheriff, is the one to blame for no charges being filed?

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  162. 11:05pm, We delete very few posts. We do not want this blog to be a "rumor mill" like the other one. Although we do not want to see Mr Rivero elected Sheriff, we do delete posts that we consider to be strictly rumor about Mr Rivero. We also delete posts from the Lovelace group when they come over here and copy and paste the same "dead horse" post over and over again. Also posts from people that just don't seem to have any common sense. An example would be the post from people that think there was some big cover up because the Sheriff gave Mr Perdock a huge the night of the accident, but did not hug anyone from the sailboat. That lacks common sense, plain and simple. If I get a call from someone telling me that a good friend of mine has just been in a bad accident and I go to the scene, I am going to give them a hug. It's too early to determine who is a fault. Even if I knew my good friend caused the accident, I would give them a hug. No one I know would purposely set out to hurt another person, and would feel horrible if they had done so. I am not going to go around hugging every person at the scene.

    We also delete posts because we are afraid. Stupid seems to be contagious to some people. We are afraid it will become an epidemic!

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  163. 5:33, "John Boy" doesn't have anything to do with managing this blog. If you are referring John from LCN, I take the fact that you think I might be him as a huge compliment. Thank you very much. You made my day!

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  164. I am very impressed with the substance that everyone is posting. You guys, and gals, are putting a lot of great information out there. Your posts show integrity and honesty. Thank you for keeping us informed with the facts. I hope that many others will get your message and know the truth.

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  165. Come ask Sheriff Mitchell yourself. He will be at the Cowpoke Cafe in Middletown tomorrow night, June 29, from 7-9:00 PM. He will be available for questions and answers or just to meet and greet .

    Lake County is a beautiful place, join us and we'll keep it that way.

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  166. June 28, 2010 7:01 PM

    I think what you're attempting to say is the intent behind a post being deleted.

    Deleting posts to uphold the stated rules of the site is diametrically opposed to deleting posts(censorship) out of fear of an opposing view.

    You guys delete posts because they are baseless and/or based on hearsay. Lovelace deletes posts out of fear. Fear of an opposing view. Smart citizens see though this. No need to explain, this is stated in your rules.

    As far as stupid not becoming an epidemic. well, too late on that one. Please don't carry that one on your shoulders.

    You guys are playing fair. It gains respect from people like myself; citizens, not just civilians, who grasp the higher calling and commitment of a democracy. Unfortunately the other guys are not playing fair.

    Your team could play the dirty game, but your not. That in and of itself holds allot value regarding the boat accident and allegations of profiling. Simply, it just doesn't fit. I have allot of close friends who are Hispanic and Native Americans here. People who's opinions I value. I have spoken to them, openly. If I thought for one second the allegations were true I would be your worst enemy, instead I am a supporter.

    And as far as an investigating law enforcement officer hugging victims; it can go sideways. People can freak out, so it is often not done IMHO. I have done it, but sometimes objectivity is the best way with certain people after a traumatic event.

    Redcell martman

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  167. So it seems that the Hatelace blog has given an order not to post or discuss further regarding the Renee thing. You know, one of the main Rivero supporters who had an issue with domestic violence and got arrested. They wrote that it’s a done deal, past news and all that stuff. They dictate & delete, toot their own horn and I think they feel they have control over the Rivero followers. They speak, followers jump mentality. Scary. I want a sheriff to protect me from those that lurk in the shadows of the delusional like the Hatelace bunch.

    The sailboat accident was how many years ago? They hash and re-hash it when it suits them and then they have the audacity to dictate when it’s time to put an issue involving one of their own to bed. Renee was arrested only a few days ago. When I think about it I realize just how ridiculous they are. I’m beginning to think they feel they are above the rest of us, living in their own world of make believe. Hopefully come November the people who got sucked into the Hatelace mentality will come to their senses and cast their vote for Sheriff Mitchell.

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  168. 9:08 Wow, you’re impressive. Thought that up all by yourself did you?

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  169. Rivero claims that he wants to bring transparency in the LCSO to the people of the community, and that he is the leader to do it. Leaders lead by example. I want Rivero to show some transparency (and Mitchell, too), by opening up his files for review. His background files, personnel files, training files, discipline files, use of force files, etc. He wants to be hired by the people, so he should let everyone know what they're voting for. I'm not talking about his personal financial information, medical information, or stuff like that, but I would like to know certain things, like: How many citizen complaints he has had filed against him (both here and his former agency). What is the extent of his training? He said something at the Middletown debate about some sort of child interview training, being a licensed mortician (big deal), and having a Coast Guard Captain's license. I've talked to people that actually think he was a Captain in the Coast Guard. I don't think he ever served in the military, but I might be wrong. One way to find out is for him to open his files and inform us. Does this guy really have what it takes to be the top cop in the county? Has he been to Police Management school, Command College, even Supervisor school? Has he even been a training officer? So what if he can buy dope in San Francisco undercover. I'm pretty sure I could walk right down to San Francisco and buy whatever I wanted within an hour without any sort of special training. Buying dope in San Francisco is easier to do than buying cigarettes when you're 17. I want to know if he's ever had any brushes with the law, speeding tickets, arrests, etc. Mitchell doesn't get a free pass on this either. I'd like to see the same information come from him. I'm willing to bet that the package Mitchell brings is much more impressive than Rivero's.

    Francisco, you can do it! Be Transparent! Show the people proof that you're a viable candidate! Don't just talk about how corrupt the "good ol' boy system run amuck" is.

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  170. Rivero states that he wants to put a stop to "99%" of the marijuana related enforcement that is currently undertaken by the Sheriff's Department. Here is a story from LCN that shows what he would like to put a stop to:

    KELSEYVILLE – Two Ukiah men were arrested last week after deputies discovered them camping among illicit marijuana garden sites.

    Jaime Padilla Busio, 31, and his brother, 37-year-old Benjamin Padilla Busio, were arrested on the morning of June 24, according to Capt. James Bauman of the Lake County Sheriff's Office.

    Bauman said two deputies assigned to special enforcement were conducting surveillance on June 24 on two marijuana grow sites identified a week prior during a helicopter over flight in the Kelsey Creek area of Kelseyville.

    After locating two additional grow sites in the area, the deputies found a camp among the grows occupied by the brothers. Bauman said both men were arrested without incident.

    During their surveillance, deputies counted and later eradicated a total of 9,209 marijuana plants from four different grow sites maintained by the two men, according to Bauman's reported.

    The men had diverted water from Kelsey Creek and dammed the water in some places, and Bauman said bags of fertilizer also were located throughout the creek’s watershed area.

    A dead black bear also was located near one of the grow sites, Bauman said. Although the animal appeared to have been dead for only about a week, neither of the men claimed knowledge of how it died.

    The Busios were booked at the Lake County Jail on felony charges of cultivating marijuana and possession of marijuana for sale. Bauman said they also were charged with misdemeanor Fish and Game violations relating to diverting and polluting natural water resources.

    He said both men remain in custody on a bail of $10,000 each and both have immigration holds in place

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  171. The Busios are the type of people who would endorse a candidate who promises to put the kaybash on marijuana investigations.

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  172. Yeah, them and Renee "someone dotted my I" Burkdoll

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  173. Their boy Frankie Bankie I'm gonna sue someone has endorsements from what LE?

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  174. That was a very big dot on her I. Rollin in the hay can get physical at times. Be Careful out there.

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  175. So did they endorse Rivero?? Betting not....

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  176. Frankie Bankie bugle boy of company D!

    Sorry, this just came to mind after reading the above post.

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  177. Looks like the manifesto has no audience so they come over here to post half the story. How many LE are endorsing Frank?

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  178. Are you saying that there is only one John Boy? It has to be jj if your first reference is to him....... VoteNoRivero said...

    5:33, "John Boy" doesn't have anything to do with managing this blog. If you are referring John from LCN, I take the fact that you think I might be him as a huge compliment. Thank you very much. You made my day!

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  179. I am sure there are lots of "John Boy"s out there. However, I only know one "John Boy" that has been victimized by you Lovelace people. That is the one from LCN. I don't know him personally, but take it as a huge compliment that you think I am him. Thank you.

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  180. You can fool some of the people some of the time, But not this time.
    VoteNoRivero said...

    I am sure there are lots of "John Boy"s out there. However, I only know one "John Boy" that has been victimized by you Lovelace people. That is the one from LCN. I don't know him personally, but take it as a huge compliment that you think I am him. Thank you.
    June 29, 2010 12:38 PM

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  181. At least Lake co. news is honest about what they print, Al tho Who would want or pay for Controlled news???? If you believe in locally controlled news and can afford $5 per month to help out, please take the opportunity to show your support and either click on the button below, or send a Paypal payment to our paypal account directly at subscribe@lakeconews.com,

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  182. Well good, sign your name to the articles and then print it out and distribute it for all to see how slanderous, crazy and unintelligent you can be. Just stop posting about it here. No one cares. Grandma in K

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  183. Getting ready for the drive to Middletown to visit with the Sheriff at Cowpoke Cafe. Come by and enjoy the company. Chic Le Chef is providing the goodies.

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  184. Um yeah 4:10, I think its about local control, not news steerage. I think they are suggesting that local control is superior to MNGs Denver control of the Bee and the fact that all those ad dollars leave not only the county but the state.
    They exhibit reciprocal support for businesses and non-profits and don't pull punches so I'm gonna have to go with local control is a good thing.
    There's plenty of out of control "news" over on the Rivero Blogs if thats what you're looking for.

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  185. Thanks for trying to smooth it over John Boy, It is controlled by you and you know it, No wool over my eyes sorry.

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  186. Rivero's gang has got this "cult of personality" thing going. They have some nerve saying that those in the sheriff's office are brainwashed/manipulated by Mitchell. Too bad that a portion of the public doesn't realize that this is what is happening to them by this scam called mitchellwatch/manifest/outlook.
    Grandma in K

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  187. The sad thing is they seem to be all so angry, wanting to tear everything down to get their way. Its as if they suffer from some kind of drug induced malady that turns them into sociopaths.
    You see it all over that site and you can hear anger in Frank's voice when he's got no apparent reason for anger.
    I think the pot is too strong for these folks to handle.

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  188. A very good night for the Mitchell-2010 campaign. We met with a group of approximately 50 supporters. A good mix of established business people and influential community members from the south county area. We're happy to report that donations were very strong and greatly appreciated. A special thanks to the crew at Chic Le Chef in Hidden Valley for their great desserts and catering, the Cowpoke Cafe for the use of their facility and that other Middletown restaraunt, you know who you are. Awesome bread pudding!

    If you find yourself near any of these places please stop in and say hi or stay for a meal or a cup of coffee and thank them for their support! We support our local businesses and appreciate your's in return.

    Just a reminder, the Sheriff has asked that his supporters refrain from personal attacks against the opponent, even if true, they only lower us to their level. This campaign will be about qualifications, and the opponent isn't even in the same ballpark in that respect.

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  189. Do you mean to tell me that the campaign should be based on qualifications and not personal attacks???? Now I get it! The other person's campaign KNOWS they can't win on qualifications, so THAT'S why they've dropped to the low level of personal attacks. And I thought they actually had some personal beef with law enforcement. That's not it at all, they just know that is the only chance they have of winning support. Can't stand on their own laurels.

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  190. Did you have a meaningful comment or were you just trying to showcase your juvenile argumentation skills?

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  191. The comment at 2:00 was directed at a childish post that has since been deleted, rightfully so, I might add.

    The poster at 5:00 "sees" very little, since I am not John Jenson or even connected with him in any way. I post under the name Thomas Paine. The rumor bloggers think they have outed me, but like so many of their "news flashes" this claim is wrong too. There are too many errors on their site to even attempt to keep track.

    To those of you posting here, keep up the good work. Keep posting information about Sheriff Mitchell's public appearances and listing the many qualifications he has that place him head and shoulders above his opponent.

    To the developer of this site, thank you for keeping it free of hate and misinformation.

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  192. To 8:35... who cares? I don't. Who's the developer of the hate blog? Bruce,Brian, and Tom, big deal. If this site does not contain anything you find interesting, don't read it, MK?

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  193. 9:40, only in your imagination.

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  194. OK I'll be 200 and your welcome.

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  195. too bad you were only 199. You must be a lacer.

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  196. Lacer clan is obviously worried about this site. They visit and post on a regular basis. Too bad they don't post something true that we don't have to delete.

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  197. Why did you delete the results? The numbers were provided to me by a simple phone call to Registrar of Voters just before 5PM today.

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  198. Too bad they don't post something true that we don't have to delete.
    July 1, 2010 5:25 PM

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  199. Sorry about deleting the results. I checked the county website and it still had the same preliminary results count, so I thought it was bogus. The county needs to update their website!

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  200. All this talk about McClain not keeping up with his promises. Don't they realize that this is what's going to happen with Rivero?

    grandma in K

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